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John Wood Jr. of Better Angels | Bret Weinstein's DarkHorse Podcast #4



John Wood Jr. – Media Director and National Leader at Better Angels discusses the effects of political polorization in our cultural discourse and offers solutions to overcome this hazard by tapping into our better angels.

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Bert Sperling
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Bert Sperling

Looks so creepy clean shaven

skepto-o -punk
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skepto-o -punk

Who downvotes this? (I guess we all know the answer to that question.)

jwannabeebee
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jwannabeebee

We simply have lost the will to compromise and without compromise we would not have had a Constitution.

Gabriel Eggers
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Gabriel Eggers

It sounded to me like he was describing the YangGang when he was talking about the sort of coming together of different sides willing to bridge divides see common humanity and listen to each others points of view and stories.

heepajunk
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heepajunk

Not sure what your last conversation was like, but this one was pure gold.

K. De Metter
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K. De Metter

Bret, When are you and your brother taking your DarkHorse through the Portal 🙂
So nice to see the both of you have started very interesting podcasts

Marie-Andrea Gagné
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Marie-Andrea Gagné

A lot to think about… Might have to listen to the podcast a couple of time to grasp everything. Thank you for introducing Mr, John Wood Jr.

K. De Metter
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K. De Metter

1:38 That's a form of bias a lot of people suffer from ( I forgot the name ) . Basically it's when two events happen at the same time, and so you begin to believe there's a correlation, but that's because you only remember those times when they happened at the same time and you disregard the other times ( or you just don't know about them). So when technology works, you are not noticing it. When technology breaks when you are not around, you don't notice it either. You notice it when technology breaks when you are around, because… Read more »

Andrew Aurich
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Andrew Aurich

Can someone please tell me when Libertarian Ideology lead to the mass slaughter of 10's of millions of people?

K. De Metter
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K. De Metter

27:20 I'm still not sure I understand what you mean by patriotism vs nationalism. Here's how I see it, please correct me if I'm wrong Patriotism is the willingness to sacrifice to achieve or retain something of value Nationalism is still the willingness to sacrifice for your country. Are you are saying that nationalism is the willingness to sacrifice for your country, even when that means sacrificing the very values that country and the culture of that country holds dear ?For example, a value of the US might be the the right to a fair trial and fair treatment of… Read more »

Mason Shewman
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Mason Shewman

Excellent discussion!

oTomate haio
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oTomate haio

Too wordy and demagogic about simple ideals.

Gabriel Eggers
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Gabriel Eggers

This guys is an amazing thinker and speaker, such a pleasure to listen to, thank you for introducing me to him. I think his voice needs to be amplified, get this man on more podcasts.

skepto-o -punk
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skepto-o -punk

Bret and John, what I find quite interesting is your pro-bipartisan, pro-heterodox conversation is filled with anti-Trump rhetoric. You both view Trump’s election as a bad thing. You’re certainly entitled to that view, but with that obvious default, how is a Trump supporter supposed to be encouraged to embrace anything else you’re saying? In 2016 I was disgusted with both choices to vote for, but for different reasons. But my contempt for the infinitely corrupt, fake and hypocritical HRC led to me voting — not for Trump but against Hillary (by voting for Trump) — essentially anyone would suffice to… Read more »

John Champagne
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John Champagne

People ask me how I'm doing. I can't say I am doing well. For 20+ years, I have shared a proposal for how to end poverty AND limit humans' impacts on the environment. Promote economic justice and sustainability. I have noticed that most people (99.99%) are willing to let the ideas languish. But I can't get a reply when I ask, "Why is it OK to let these ideas languish. What economist will say what policy options offer the most efficient and fair ways for taking account of economic externalities (making prices honest)? What moral philosopher will call for honest… Read more »

Hank Roest
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Hank Roest

There is a common problem with words that are V4V (Void for Vagueness). Rather than struggling hopelessly to "reclaim" or "clarify" V4V words we need to abandon them ourselves and, when they have been weaponized by the opposition, we need to reject their use.

skepto-o -punk
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skepto-o -punk

Historically in the USA, although the Left and the Right had very different ideas (and even ideals) about how to accomplish X (societal goal), what bound us together and prevented us from going off the rails as a country (post Civil War) was our love for country and a shared fundamental belief that America was a great place — not perfect, no without room for growth, but still a country to honor and be proud of. In my experience, today there are very many on the Left who no longer believe that. Some actually believe we need to watch it… Read more »

Round& Round
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Round& Round

Way too many soliloquies, if you can’t make it more simple then the complexity itself is a barrier to having any of this happen. Good communicators just like good riders can edit their language, and not turn the conversation into one’s ability to show off their capacity for complicated words.

MrNocakeforu
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MrNocakeforu

This guy swallowed a thesaurus

Round& Round
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Round& Round

I think you should have less language properly done more language just makes it more complicated.

llaauuddrruupp
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llaauuddrruupp

Title should have been "ASMR with mouth sounds."

Zac Cush
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Zac Cush

It seems a little condescending to say that the people who voted for Trump or Brexit didn’t really want either.

Whether it’s true or not, however, I don’t know. I didn’t vote for either. I withheld my vote in 2016.

Jere Krischel
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Jere Krischel

Sounds like Marshall Rosenberg's "Non Violent Communication" – just had that book recommended to me last week 🙂

Richard Migliore
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Richard Migliore

At 26.23: "I don't want to be a sucker 'in this transaction."
Do we have to frame the lack of successful conversation with someone in those terms? It's been said that loving someone takes courage and the willingness to accept the fact our honest effort to achieve our goal may or may not 'pay off' in practical terms. It doesn't mean that we're a sucker for taking the risk. Who knows what positive influence we possibly might have in the broader picture and in the longer run.

Kevin
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Kevin

Bret, loved this discussion. I issued a challenge to your brother that I will now issue to you. Back in 2016 Dr. Todd Rider from MIT announced that he created a broad spectrum antiviral drug and attempted to crowdfund research funding (unsuccessfully). I've attempted to find any information on him but have failed, can you find him and get him on the podcast?

Michael Scott
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Michael Scott

This is hands down the best interview I’ve seen with Grey Worm’s stunt double.

unbearable faggot
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unbearable faggot

Genuinely impressed by this guy's verbal acumen. He ran circles around Bret with some of those jokes, and even standing outside of the conversation even I didn't get them until he elaborated. Dude's brilliant.

James Valaitis
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James Valaitis

This was a fantastic conversation and in particular their comments on the weakness of the good faith game, as well as the conflation of dispassionate analysis with a lack of care resonated with me.
That being said I really don't think Bret has a good grasp on Brexit, or at least his overview of the situation for the sake of brevity was very misleading. As somebody living within England as it plays out I can promise you there is nothing is simple about this.

Emil M
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Emil M

Oooh, that marble machine outro game me goosebumps. Great talk as well, keep'em coming Bret!

Nathalie Ramirez
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Nathalie Ramirez

Loved this, didn't know about John Wood before, will definitely keep him on my radar from now on.

Paul Russo
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Paul Russo

Good talk but Jesus h christ…. Get to the POINT my dude.

Brandon Chapman
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Brandon Chapman

Jesus this guy almost seems like presidential material in 15-20 years time. Brilliant speaker.

billy Bob
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billy Bob

Is this guy a more articulate Obama?

Dan Sullivan
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Dan Sullivan

It doesn't scale because mass movements require dumbing down messages. Real progress comes from quiet reasoning with the people who are already in power rather than trying to snatch the power away from them.

thewatercarrier1
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thewatercarrier1

42 was the answer, they had to build the earth to figure out what the question was.

NinjaKitty
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NinjaKitty

Bret and John Thank you both for an enjoyable and very interesting conversation. Like many others, I am just fascinated by this intellectual world of which I really never seen. I figured there were probably a whole bunch of really smart people that talked about more than just "why did he throw a slider…. he knew it was coming?" conversations, but did not understand what was out there. I am now a MEGA huge fan of Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, Larry Elders and a whole ton of these great IDW types, and yes, of course, both Weinstein bro's. I think… Read more »

Dan Sullivan
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Dan Sullivan

I think I agree with everything John Woods says, but he says too much. Less is more, John.

Johnny Watkins
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Johnny Watkins

He breaks tek? HE’S A WIZARD!!! Wonder if he knows Mab?

billy Bob
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billy Bob

John Wood Jr. seems like a class act. I hope his ideas materialize. Tough to do though in today's society

Hank Roest
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Hank Roest

1:15:05 "… a centriputible force" ?

chubbyruckus
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chubbyruckus

As I listen to this terrific conversation, I’m picturing a smash cut to a moronic TYT or Michael Brooks video calling it pseudo-intellectual alt right talking points. It’s alarming how venomous the reasoning gets the further to an extreme one leans. I think boobs might be the solution to all of this, but I don’t have any solid data to offer yet.

Richard DeJoode
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Richard DeJoode

I'd do something far outside my usual behavior to be able to articulate my thoughts as well as John Wood Jr. Or even Bret for that matter really. Both are enjoyable to listen to.

Steve Cass
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Steve Cass

I think that the idea that people in the UK that voted for Brexit didn't really mean it is wishful thinking from those with a left of centre globalist world view.

Odin G.S. Composer
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Odin G.S. Composer

Will you have Jonathan Haidt on? I feel like that would be a productive conversation.

Edward Strinden
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Edward Strinden

0:55 That's called the Pauli Effect.

Bruno Bronosky
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Bruno Bronosky

1:33:52 I like: "Reasonableness by any means necessary." As the antitheses.

Owlsystem efg
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Owlsystem efg

Am I the only one who is bothered by the sounds he makes with his mouth?
I am sorry to have to point this out when the conversation was so interesting, but the truth is that it deconcentrated me.

Liam Winter
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Liam Winter

Bring back the wizard beard!

James Nelson
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James Nelson

Moshe Kasher & Neal Brennan did a podcast like this

aporiac
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aporiac

Trump is the symptom, but you are also the symptom. The reason that people like Trump is that he's orders of magnitude more effective than you. Is 'Bret Weinstein' as currently realised even possible, let alone viable, without the space that Trump has created? In anything other than the Trump era you would merely be yesterday's anathema.