Prof. Rana Mitter: “Trendy China” | Talks at Google

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For this discuss Trendy China Talks at Google welcomes Rana Mitter, Professor of the Historical past and Politics of Trendy China in Oxford, fellow of St. Cross …

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If you know very little about China, you should listen to this talk and learn a few things about China. As a native Chinese, I have to say that the speaker's understanding of China is quite superficial. For example, his explanation of why the cultural revolution got started is laughable. The cultural revolution resulted from Mao's fear of losing control and power after the failure of the Great Leap Forward. Confucianism was just a tool or excuse used by interest groups. The speaker mentioned the May 4th Movement but did not talk much about the immense suffering and humiliation of… Read more »

KonW 2017
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KonW 2017

what a freaking waste of time, thought and expected higher quality from talks aimed at google employees, for a topic named "Modern China" this guy literelly just repeated the history, youd save much more time and get much more just read through the cina history wiki page

Night Owl
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Night Owl

Good to have westerners understand China more. Asians understand Europe more than vice versa.

Levine Levine
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Levine Levine

@34:40, the speaker said everyone has a Right to pension, healthcare, and welfare. Why not add also food, shelter, clothing, employment, college education, marriage, children, longevity, good-looks, and happiness under the rubric Welfare? To pay for all these freebies, let's have a big Government that compels the productive workers to pay/subsidize/ support the less productive ones. In effect, a return to communism or socialism. Didn't China move to a market economy because socialism/communism could not better the lives of the one billion Chinese?

windblowpass
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windblowpass

very informative, and logical perspective

kcwin
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kcwin

What Deng Xiaoping did was to set aside ideology and institute a national consensus and a stable power succession system. He realized that any political system that devolves into ideological warfare or a zero sum game will stall or fail completely, so he put in fixes to the system to help China avoid falling into turmoil again. In this way, like the speaker kind of hinted at with his Confucian thesis, Deng has turned a staunchly ideological Communist state back into a Confucian imperial state with the Communist party sitting on the throne. But this is also not a complete… Read more »

zs Xie
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zs Xie

Using 2007 ppt in 2017? professor you are lacking of infos. But this brown british professor far better then normal low literacy rate indian ppl.

penny json
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penny json

Eye opener. Didn't know the trenches were dug by the Chinese! I learnt that the most dangerous railway constructions in the 18th century in the U.S. & other times in Africa were also made by Chinese labours. The Chinese sure did contributed a lot to the world!

秦竞飞
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秦竞飞

Great talk!

Marbie Lee
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Marbie Lee

You know China but you don't understand China. This is really nothing fresh and deeper than the other western tones.

peter tuann
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peter tuann

good lecture, didn't know about Chinese labor digging trenches

Tony Wang
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Tony Wang

Good observation, unbiased but segmentary understanding of modern China. China is so complex that few foreign can really predict and understand it, and nobody really care what Chinese themselves say about modern China. This is kinda contradictory.

z h
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z h

so basically what he's saying is: modernity=democracy, and china is not modern yet because it doesn't have democracy.

Murderous Communists
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Murderous Communists

Great talk, thank you for sharing 🙏

Michael Zhuang
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Michael Zhuang

Very good talk.

Akin Khoo
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Akin Khoo

another racist and imperialist interpretation of the world. good job racist. good job.

NaP
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NaP

bad lecture,he has no idea of his own,just describe what everybody knows,and that was very very old story,nothing about modern,wasting time

MrMorethanexist
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MrMorethanexist

The Chinese had loads of Opium before the British sold it to them……FFS – blaming the Brits for opium is like blaming the Chinese for bombs.

Peter Chang
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Peter Chang

oh,such a shallow understanding of china!

Ben Wong
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Ben Wong

Some misinterpretation of Confucian principles. Confucianism is not authoritarianism. It is humanistic realism in attempt to harmonize interactions between individuals so as to reduce conflicts. It is the opposite of western liberal narcissism (liberalism). It does not condone mistreatment of others. Reality is harsh in that people are not born or travel thru life as social equals. Confucianism teaches individuals how or what manners should be used in the encounter between classes so as not to create a conflict. Individuals rise or fall in social class as a result of their own actions. The scholar class is highly respected so… Read more »

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Doublescoop BS

He knows the history but also lack understanding of the deep cultural China. It's a typical western mindset. Westerners always fail to recognize or even understand that China has a meritocratic system of government that is superior to the west. China's democratic election is held at the grass root level. Elected low level officials with the right stuff gets promoted as they gain experience in various parts of government. Party recognition of their achievements put them at the top. China will never end up with someone like Trump, Obama or Bush at the top.

Case Yap
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Case Yap

Everything went well until the last part where the joke on award to Putin is really distaseful and unpleasant.

BAN Jinhe
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BAN Jinhe

its really hard for westerner to understand china.

Raimundo O
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Raimundo O

I am always skeptical about experts on China who barely speaks Mandarin let alone understands classical Chinese writings. Judging by his awkward Mandarin in the beginning of the talk (with intention to impress the audience no doubt) actually confirmed my skepticism.

Gerald Pechenuk
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Gerald Pechenuk

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TheTheOuters
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TheTheOuters

The. Last sentence still has the “be western or wither” mindset in it. So to sum it up , it’s a shitty talk. Time wasted.

TheTheOuters
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TheTheOuters

THe pics he carefully choose for the “present China” are all like 15 years ago………wtf

Steve Yang
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Steve Yang

Excellent abstraction of recent Chinese developments.

World Peace
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World Peace

This is quite a true and fair view about the recent development. I am sure a lot more stuff could have been addressed if there was more time for the talk. Thank you!

zhmz888
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zhmz888

culture revolution is a mistake upon misbelieve that the corruption is caused by acient culture..because Mao found the corruption and beauracracy is spreading in his new country where he did not wanted….the core of the issue which the Confusious preaching: human being is kind when they were just born..(totally opposit of bible preaching, and I think the bible is the correct version), becaus of that, Mao determind to re-educate people at large… naturelly it is largely fruiteless and Deng xiaopin have correct it with practical reforming… to a large frame of the picture…these workers in the bottom are not enthusiased… Read more »

zhmz888
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zhmz888

great to talk about may 4th movement which is not known to the rest of the world, but that day is a festival for youth in china, it stands for a turning point….the point of desparation after chinese threw out the last emporer….a decades parlimentary politics which did not solve the problem…where people have seen those elected polies were extremely corrupted…, however the core value of May 4th is under discussion becasue it iniciated denying of the complete set of ruling system kept china , a giant country and economy had been going on 2000 years succesfully…via value of Confussious… Read more »

Ben Wong
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Ben Wong

Good and fair overview of the 20th – 21st century of Chinese history. It falls short in interpretation of Chinese cultural perspectives. You have more personal freedoms in China than in Western democracies – you primarily don't have the freedom to preach against the government or accepted societal; norms. Chinese look to the government as a father figure and trust their government (latest Pew Polls) – westerns view their government with suspicion as an adversary, The prof fails to understand that beside Confucianism the other philosophy deeply embedded in Chines culture is the Dao concept of Yin-Yang. The Dao symbol… Read more »

Michael Wei
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Michael Wei

"Worlds biggest country run by communist party which overseeing a system of unbridled capitalism." Exactly right!