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Steven Crowder and Carlos Maza are both big babies



MT discusses his piece in the Spectator on the ridiculous Crowder/Maza controversy.

Spectator piece: https://spectator.us/steven-crowder-carlos-maza-playground/

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Nyder
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Nyder

You're next on their list, remember Trotsky.

russell d
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russell d

Michael: Crowder has no salient political points.

Also Michael just 15 seconds later: I don’t watch his show or follow him very closely.

Big Brother Thunder
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Big Brother Thunder

Wanted to make this video but of course you said it. Great shit

Eric
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Eric

I'm not that big of a fan of Crowder, and he is a big baby at times, and he does make embarrassing arguments on the Change My Mind episodes at times, but the fact that you said he was unfunny, which is true sometimes, shows me the embarrassingly weak lefty type you are. You should never defend the regressive retarded fat brown buffalo who is Cenk Uygur, and you've done that. Embarrassing and weak. Change.
Oh and obviously Carlos Maza is a faggot.

Lukasz
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Lukasz

You're being a fraud here Michael. Crowder was minding his own business and providing commentary on the media (just like Vox does). Vox came after Crowder. So how are they BOTH babies? How many conservatives have channels and organizations that specifically go after platforms and advertisers to get rid of leftist media? Oh that's right. None! This "splitting the baby" fakery of yours is why I tell conservatives to not fuck with leftists just cuz they say something conservatives like (i.e., all the right-wing accolades you're receiving from Fox, etc. over Mueller). At the end of the day you're still… Read more »

Creven Strowder
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Creven Strowder

Crowder is pro censorship when it comes to criticizing Israel.

Dave Santos
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Dave Santos

Can you set a backup channel on Bitchite? You can automatically upload to both sites at the same time. There is a feature for that. Dont want Youtube banning more people in the future and you and other content creators having to start over.

Amund Bisgaard
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Amund Bisgaard

You nailed it pretty well with that title.

Kit McKillington:
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Kit McKillington:

Crowder is one of the few big names fighting against the authoritarian left – Carlos Maza and largely the progressivism movement. He is putting his neck on the line to fight these people while most everyone just looks away or is too scared to speak up. And you condemn him so flippantly..

Kit McKillington:
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Kit McKillington:

Look I agree with what you’re saying but you sound like a pretentious dick sometimes. If you actually watched Crowders stuff you would see it’s fucking milquetoast and wholesome tbh. You can not find him funny but he isn’t someone who should be completely disregarded because of some offensive jokes. He has legit political positions

TrailersFromHell
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TrailersFromHell

You should consider retitling the video. This is not a "both sides" issue. Vox is at fault here.

Tim Soel
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Tim Soel

Isn't part of free speech that you allow speech you don't agree with, like 'Crowder should be banned because whatever'. If your point of view is unbounded free speech, your anger should be aimed at Youtube and not Carlos Maza.

Alexis Wilmot Porter
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Alexis Wilmot Porter

Never appease the mob. They just smell blood and fear, and go in for the kill. Of course, it could well be that the YT figures involved largely share Vox's political ideology and this obscure character's claim of "speech violence" – ie, you hurt my feelings that's like being punched in the face. Further, I would posit that the formerly all-dominating "mainstream" media entities (ie, the "authoritative voices" YT is helpfully "raising up", presumably on the trampled backs of smaller independent creators like the good M here) feel threatened by people like Crowder, whose idiotic but occasionally amusing videos get… Read more »

d brown
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d brown

This is an outstanding, nuanced breakdown of the controversy. I only wish Tracey's fake woke, pseudo-liberal detractors were as intellectually honest as he is. He's far more of a principled leftist than the censorious, reactionary neoliberals like Maza.

Julian Tol
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Julian Tol

I suspect that the Maza blowup and journo walkout have been tightly coordinated to maximize leverage against the company in pursuit of better pay and conditions. All my evidence is circumstantial.

Muslim Lover of Peace Man
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Muslim Lover of Peace Man

you're not a Journalist… you're a brilliant Journalist to say the least.

Ismael Freytes
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Ismael Freytes

All you tuber hate vox

Actionbastard
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Actionbastard

These guys are just cogs in a bigger fight against the tyrant. Vox guy needs to watch himself though. Those who attack liberty deserve only death.

skeeveskeeve
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skeeveskeeve

M Tracey you ARE a journalist. Just a really annoying one.

Terry Grant
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Terry Grant

Crowder is being attacked, Maza is a lying POS.

SASHA Savage
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SASHA Savage

Maza spreads AIDS all over town with his rectum. YUK!

Spring Eselgroth
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Spring Eselgroth

The thing that bothers me the most about Maza is that he didn't consider the precedents set out by the Supreme Court on this issue. As a journalist, I would expect Maza to have a basic knowledge of the history of the First Amendment law. His feelings take precedence over his dedication to being a journalist. If he had taken a step back, he would have seen the error in his actions…especially after Youtube came back and said no. It's pretty basic stuff. First, there is an expectation of criticism baked in for public figures (compared to private citizens). (Flynt… Read more »

RJG 71
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RJG 71

When liberal public figures demand safe spaces to protect their fragile egos from hearing any negative criticism.

Luther DePapier
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Luther DePapier

To further your point, since Carlos Maza is playing the gay card on this — being attacked on his being an homosexual male –, we've got to be fair here. If you're a woman pundit on the Internet, what Carlos is experiencing is NOTHING compared to what a woman public figure is faced with online. I literally watched a TED Talk a while ago where this woman had to employ someone to filter her social media feed because of harassment. But then I wanna say like, honestly, maybe if YouTube and all didn't make money from all that hate, maybe… Read more »

AZOffRoadster
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AZOffRoadster

I just recently found out Chowder is a supposed 'comedian', and that what he does is 'comedy'. Whodaknew?

Life of Brian
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Life of Brian

The tech companies aren't "giving in" to pressure. The pressure is a stage show for public consumption. It's a cover story. It's the big media companies in conjunction with the Military Industrial Complex in conjunction with Silicon Valley that are doing this. This should be obvious. Silicon Valley is functioning here as a political actor, not an economic actor. The Tech Titans are working in conjunction with all the Titans to control thought and speech.

mochawitch
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mochawitch

That headline is perfect

Vladimir Putin
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Vladimir Putin

This motherfucker needs to open his mouth more when he speaks

chrimony
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chrimony

Don't for one instant believe that these social "justice" advocates aren't cynically abusing their "victim" status. They cry out in pain as they attack you.

censorship bites
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censorship bites

I am the only person to note the rich irony: of you, Crowder, and Vox's Maza, Crowder puts out videos that always allow comments. In sharp contrast, Vox and your rant in the Spectator don't allow comments.

censorship bites
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censorship bites

Bullsh!t. This isn't a "spat", one side is fighting and the other is giggling. While criticizing Maza's ideas and politics, Crowder mocked him on Crowder's homemade comedy show. Backed by million-dollar media titan Vox which is in turn backed by NBCUniversal, Maza has campaigned to have Crowder banned and hobbled (demonetized). One is impolite; the other is an authoritarian SJW. If you think the two are anywhere equivalent, then your moral calculus is profoundly broken.

What Ever
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What Ever

We GET IT.. You don't like Crowder. I'm about to make a drinking game out of this.

Just A Guy
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Just A Guy

From 1 Jersey guy to another, you are the king of intellectual sobriety at the moment. Please continue, as many of us now look forward to your commentary

Michael O’Neil
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Michael O’Neil

True. However only one wants the world to bend to their delicate sensibilities and is enthusiastically pushing censorship. So there’s that.

idunno lol
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idunno lol

But only one of them is getting their shit shut down